Week 8 – Communication Examples
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August 11, 2013 at 7:38 pm #11307
Stephanie Steiner
MemberWe can learn a lot from each other by sharing examples of when we had an effective – or ineffective – communication experience (in fact sometimes the “ineffective” examples can be the most informative J). Please share an example of either a) a time you communicated in a challenging situation and worked, or b) a time you didn’t communicate in a nonviolent manner. Discuss what went well and/or what you would have done differently.
August 17, 2013 at 6:35 pm #11321Erika
MemberEver since talking to Paul and hearing about his experience in NVC I have had a renewed interest so I found this week particularly helpful.
Luckily I have I had many “failures” so a lot of opportunities to learn. One conversation that comes up that can be a difficult conversation is the subject of how money is spent in our family. There can occasionally be pretty different opinions on that. These conversations have sometimes become pretty emotional and have involved me saying something like “You are selfish” or “You are greedy.” This approach has not been consistent with NVC principles. It has hurt feelings and created animosity while also creating internal dissonance, as I knew this approach was not consistent with the principles I want to live my life by. This seems to be a classic mistake as described by this weeks readings and videos. I am hoping though that the NVC model presented by Rosenberg is one that can help me better with my communication and listening to have a much more positive and constructive exchange moving forward. I think it is something that can take some practice but I think it could be effective. Certainly the NVC model is much more aligned with better expressing my beliefs and feelings than the vague, blaming, and judgmental language I have used when conversations have become difficult in the past.
August 18, 2013 at 2:11 am #11322Erika
MemberI did an NVC introductory weekend about 5 years ago which I found hugely helpful. It also helped me to join an NVC practice group here in Brighton which I attended weekly for a year or two. I still have some contacts who practice professionally and am amazed at how they can make the language of NVC sound completely natural – something I sometimes fail at. I remember the first time I used NVC with my wife Charlotte. I had been working away from home and she had been having a tough time at home on her own with our two small kids. As she told me her problems on the phone, instead of trying to fix them with snap judgements, I just tried to empathise by reflecting back what I heard her saying. Afterwards she said, thats the best listening you’ve ever done in our 10 years together! The only problem was that the next time I tried it, she said “are you doing that NVC on me again?” I’m sometimes not fluent enough in it to make it sound natural!
It has helped in my communication with my kids. Their arguments are often about who’s “fault” something was. So NVC gives me the tools to try to sidestep this issue. And when they were small and angry about something, it often helped to try to voice the needs which were not being met for them rather than try to ‘fix’ their problem. It didn’t always work but when it they genuinely felt heard, their anger would often dissipate as if by magic
It has helped me advise many friends of mine who are in the middle of a dispute with a family member. To be able to hear about a conflict and then reflect it back to them without judgement or blame language, can often help them work out how to approach their mother, son, friend etc.
A couple of friends of mine work in environments (often corporate) where the communication culture is literally toxic. Full of the kind of emotional judgements and ultimatums that people have learned from the dialogue in soap operas. I have sometimes been able to help them see how a conflict at work, or a very angry statement from a colleague, can be viewed nonviolently.
The serving soldier who I worked with on a movie last year was definitely an opportunity for me to try to engage nonviolently. Rather than judging and stating a position that was in opposition to him, I tried to empathise and learn from his experience, whilst still letting him know that my view of the world was radically different from his. We ended up being friends and talking very frankly about violence. On our last day working together, he showed me a large tattoo on his chest that showed the symbol for his regiment, with the ancient Roman motto,
“to have peace, prepare for war”.
I was then in a trusting enough relationship with him to say my motto would be
“to have peace, prepare for peace – if you prepare for war, you will get it”.
I wouldn’t have said such an oppositional thing to him until we trusted each other.The problem I often fall into is that I have a need to be liked and popular, so I sometimes sympathise rather than empathise, and listen to things I disagree with, without being able to gently voice the fact that my view is different. This is something I’m very much still working on.
August 19, 2013 at 12:02 pm #11326Erika
MemberHi Paul
Really interesting to hear you mention the challenge of making NVC sound natural! I really liked the NVC format and think it could be really effective but felt like I may sound a little unnatural using that formula (When I see _ I feel _because my need for _ is/is not met. Would you be willing to _). I would think like almost anything it can start off maybe sounding and also feeling unnatural but once you get the basics down and are more comfortable with it you can use the formula in a way where everything doesn’t sound so formulated and sounds more natural.
Best regards
JohnAugust 19, 2013 at 2:50 pm #11327Erika
MemberI also struggle quite a bit with making NVC sound natural, though the more I practice the better it gets, just like anything else I guess! For me, even if I feel that I can’t come up with a conversational NVC version of what I want to say, thinking of conflict in those terms – what I see, what I feel, what I need, what I’d like to happen – helps me to clarify for myself what is going on so that the conversation can be more productive.
Paul – I LOVE the story of the soldier showing you his tattoo! That is fantastic! What a gift for you both to be able to connect in that way. It reminds me of one friend I have, who is my son’s godfather and also my polar opposite in terms of politics and philosophy. But what I love about talking to him is that he listens respectfully, disagrees respectfully, and we both often come out of our conversations with a much deeper understanding of both the “opposing” viewpoint and our own. In fact, I often feel safer talking to him than I do talking to people who “agree” with me! I want to be able to offer that to others.
August 20, 2013 at 10:49 pm #11329Erika
MemberYes, it was great Kelly. But then when I got home, he sent me a message on Facebook:
“I thought I would just message you on here as I didn’t get any contact details before we all left the island as I did enjoy our chats and i am believe it or not interested in some of the work you do,”
I sent him “Nonviolence the history of a dangerous idea” by Mark Kurlansky, and in it I put details of Metta and NVP etc. He then told me he’d read the book and sent me this:
“Hi Paul I hope we do meet again. Stay in touch and if you do get involved in any of your projects that you think I maybe interested in please contact me I will always be happy to look and help if I can.”i don’t know what any of that means but it was amazing to see how a little discussion of nonviolence could be fairly convincing to someone who was steeped in violence. I know he returns to Afghanistan this year and have dreams of having sent a tiny virus of Nonviolence straight in to the heart of the Royal Marines!
August 21, 2013 at 2:01 pm #11334Stephanie Steiner
MemberWow, wonderful stories everyone! I second what Kelly said – Paul, the story you shared about the soldier and your interaction with him after the film was really powerful. We can all really learn from this story, as it sounds like it all comes back to the way the relationship started – with you trying to empathize with him and learn from him, while maintaining that you had a different worldview; rather than starting out trying to change him, or in a very oppositional/confrontational way. This is such an important point to keep in mind.
Like you, Paul, something that I am working on is to speak up when I disagree. Likewise, I empathize easily, but also may shy away from fully voicing my opinion when dealing with confrontation. It’s an area of growth.
Several of you mentioned the fluency of NVC language to be a challenge, and also having friends/family members ask “are you doing NVC on me again?” I can also relate 🙂 I think with NVC or compassionate communication, or communication from a nonviolence perspective, it is more about the worldview that you are entering the conversation with than the specific process or terminology that you use. I think Marshall Rosenberg even talks about this is his book – that it’s less about the specific steps and more about your consciousness.
From a nonviolence perspective, I think the key is to have the understanding of unity in mind, and the intention that, through the conversation, you can come closer together.
Great ideas and stories – thank you all so much for sharing!
StephanieAugust 21, 2013 at 7:36 pm #11337Erika
MemberI signed up for a NVC training last month but had to cancel at the last minute. I now feel that I have some understanding and am excited to sign up for the next opportunity!
I am trying to think of a good example here… one that I had recently was my conversation with my husband about his guns. He owns a few, and I want to let him know that I don’t believe they make us safer… and I hope that he gives them up. I think the challenge in the communication was that I had a goal/objective and I was too focused on getting my points across and being right. I even started using the “exchange power” and said “If you want me to move with you, you need to give them up” which definitely is not a good example of NVC! But I think toward the end of the conversation he at least understood that this is important to me.
This poses me a question – although NVC does not mean that we do not have an objective in conversation, its main goal is to be present in the moment. But what about the causes we are very passionate about, where we want people to understand and transform their perspective? How do we not give up on getting our “request” to be met, without being resentful when it does not happen?
Like everyone said, I enjoyed other examples you all posted here. This is so encouraging. Thank you!
August 22, 2013 at 8:44 am #11339Erika
MemberIt sounds great that you expressed your needs to your husband Anna. From what I’ve learned about NVC, I think that if you establish deeper connection with the other person, then you will go some way to having your needs met but maybe not in the exact way you were expecting. Maybe your husband wont give up his guns yet. But if your connection has deepened, then there will be positive outcomes that you can’t predict. As Gandhi said, work hard towards your goals but then leave the results to God. As long as the means are right, then you will have made a positive difference. An NVC teacher also helped me by pointing out that its a worthwhile practice to sometimes just sit with your unmet needs. By giving yourself empathy in this way, you can often feel more at peace with those unmet needs, and sometimes perceive underlying needs that you hadn’t seen before and that may be met in other ways to the outcome you were attached to.
Love Paul
August 28, 2013 at 8:17 pm #11363Erika
MemberPaul – I’ve been traveling a lot and just saw your comment. Thank you so much for your kind words. I know this might be a long process… and sometimes applying NVC to those closest to us is very hard! 🙂 But this class is giving me so much hope.
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